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Technological innovation is just one reason to be proud of Israel

Dan Kliman
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Proud of Israel? Pride in Israel!
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June is Lesbian/Gay/Bisexual/Transgender Pride Month. parades are happening all over the world celebrating the advancement of civil rights for the LGBT population and demanding full equality. Israel is one of the most progressive countries on LGBT issues in the world, even while it sits in a neighborhood of some of the worst offenders

LGBT Rights in Israel
-Gays have full rights to serve in the military
-Sodomy laws were struck down in 1988
-Full civil rights for LGBT people established in 1992
-Partner benefits for all governmnetal employees, including the national airline, El Al
-Partner adoption rights
-In 2007 the State agreed to recognize same gender marriages preformed abroad, similar to its recognition of other civil marriages from other countries

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Gay U.S. Jews don't have to choose between sexuality, religion ...

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Re: Technological innovation is just one reason to be proud of Israel

LGBT Pride in Israel
Dan Kliman

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* Pride parades take place annually in Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, Eilat and Haifa. Attempts by Muslim, Christian and Jewish religious groups to stop the parades, mostly in Jerusalem have consistently been blocked by the Israeli Supreme Court.
* The first transgendered person to win the Eurovision contest was Israeli Dana International in 1998 with her song, "Diva". Eurovision is watched by hundreds of millions of people through Europe, Asia and Africa.
* Openly gay singer Ivri Lidder is agmonst Israel's most popular enetrtainers
* Openly gay movie producer Eytan Fox has become one of Israel's most important film exporters to the world, with his movies "Yossi and Jagger", Walk on Water" and "The Bubble".
* Openly gay politicians have served in the Israeli Kenneset and on the city councils of Tel Aviv and Jerusalem

For more information
The Agunah, Israel's main LGBT civil rights organization
www.aguda-ta.org.il/

Jerusalem Open House, the LGBT community Cenetr of Israel (also serving the Palestinian territories)
www.worldpride.net

Gay Middle East, covering Israel and the entire Arab world
www.gaymiddleeast.com

Go gay (Hebrew language portal)
www.gogay.co.il
 

So what?

The Third Reich came up with some innovative technology, too. So what? It didn't make the Third Reich not a racist state. Israel is a racist state. Zionism is racism.
 

Don't get your point

Because Israel gives Gays and lesbians full rights, its racist? What?????
The Nazis killed their gays, btw.
Thats what the pink triangle was about.
 

"Because Israel gives Gays and lesbians full rights, its racist? What?????"

That's not what I said. Stop trying to put words into other people's mouths. It's dishonest.

Israel is racist because, like its Nazi mentors before it, it treats Jews differently than it treats non Jews. That is racist by definition. Nothing it does for Gays, and no amount of technological innovation, cancels that out.
 

Re: Don't get your point

" That is racist by definition."

Can you name one country that doesn't?

Even America gives the entire population off for Christmas- its a Christian holiday. Sure seems like preferential treatment to me.
Thats the inherent problem with nation states the way they are.

The Middle east is among the worst offenders in the world. The 22 Muslim nations also treat Jews differently than Muslims.
Jews can't own land, can't be citizens, etc....

The world is unjust. Politics suck. But I know- lets start by doing away with Israel.

Uh Huh.
 

"Can you name one country that doesn't?"

If “they do it, too” were a valid excuse, Hitler would be off the hook for killing those six million Jews, because Stalin killed six million Ukrainians.
 

seeing a pattern

So you agree that all countries are flawed, but insist that only Israel should be punished for it?
What exactly bothers you about Israel?
Could it be that many people there are Jewish?
 
Reply: "What exactly bothers you about Israel?" / 09 Aug 2008
Reply: Re: seeing a pattern / 11 Aug 2008
Reply: "Why only Israel?" etc. / 12 Aug 2008
Reply: Re: Re: seeing a pattern / 12 Aug 2008
Reply: "So what is your actual position?" / 14 Aug 2008
Reply: Re: "So what is your actual position?" / 14 Aug 2008
Reply: Re: Re: "So what is your actual position?" / 14 Aug 2008
Reply: Israel is a one person one vote democracy / 14 Aug 2008
Reply: "Non Jews have the right and the priviledge of voting in Israel." / 14 Aug 2008
Reply: The palestinians don't wnat to be part of Israel / 15 Aug 2008
Reply: Looking for Nessie-Schtarker Yid / 15 Aug 2008
Reply: "show me one statement from any palestinian asking for annexation" / 19 Aug 2008
Reply: Racism in Arab lands / 14 Aug 2008
Reply: Re: Racism in Arab lands / 14 Aug 2008
Reply: Re: Racism in Arab lands / 14 Aug 2008
Reply: Re: Racism in Arab lands / 17 Aug 2008
Reply: "non Muslims" are not a race / 18 Aug 2008
Reply: Re: "non Muslims" are not a race / 19 Aug 2008
Reply: another Zionist lie / 19 Aug 2008
Reply: "Racism was used as a synonym for bigotry." / 19 Aug 2008
Reply: Re: "Racism " / 19 Aug 2008
Reply: More Zionist BS / 20 Aug 2008
Reply: Re: "Racism was used as a synonym for bigotry." / 20 Aug 2008
Reply: Racism- er- biogotry in Arab Lands / 21 Aug 2008
Reply: Re: "Jordan, on the other hand, instituted its own 'law of return'" / 22 Aug 2008
Reply: "Jordan, on the other hand, instituted its own 'law of return'" / 22 Aug 2008
Reply: "We have an falliable system- that of nation states" / 21 Aug 2008
Reply: Re: "We have an falliable system- that of nation states" / 22 Aug 2008
Reply: "We have an falliable system- that of nation states" / 21 Aug 2008
Reply: Re: "We have an falliable system- that of nation states" / 22 Aug 2008
Reply: "documents" / 23 Aug 2008
Reply: Heres some actions: / 24 Aug 2008
Reply: "The receipiant of Israel's top literary award was Arab." (etc.) / 25 Aug 2008
Reply: Re: Heres some actions: / 25 Aug 2008
Reply: "Why is it tokenism" / 29 Aug 2008
Reply: italian state ok? / 29 Aug 2008
Reply: another Zionist lie / 30 Aug 2008
Reply: Israel is diverse / 01 Sep 2008
Reply: another Zionist lie / 02 Sep 2008
Reply: Re: Israel is diverse / 02 Sep 2008
Reply: Re: Israel is diverse / 02 Sep 2008
Reply: "their apartheid" / 02 Sep 2008
Reply: Jew only roads? / 03 Sep 2008
Reply: more Zionist BS / 03 Sep 2008
Reply: Re: more Zionist BS / 03 Sep 2008
Reply: Zionists: lie after lie after lie / 04 Sep 2008
Reply: Zionists: lie after lie after lie / 04 Sep 2008
Reply: Zionists: lie after lie after lie / 04 Sep 2008
Reply: More Islamiscist BS / 03 Sep 2008
Reply: "the greatest evil ever to be dispatched on this earth" / 04 Sep 2008
Reply: Why do peopel wnat to replace Israel with an Islamic republic? / 03 Sep 2008
Reply: another straw man / 04 Sep 2008
Reply: Re: Why do people want to replace Israel with an Islamic republic? / 04 Sep 2008
Reply: "'they' (sic) Palestinians want" / 04 Sep 2008
Reply: Democractic Israel / 04 Sep 2008
Reply: Talk's cheap. Actions speak louder than words. / 05 Sep 2008
Reply: the territories aren't israel. And they don't want to be / 05 Sep 2008
Reply: Re: the territories aren't israel. And they don't want to be / 05 Sep 2008
Reply: logical fallacies / 06 Sep 2008
Reply: logical fallacies / 06 Sep 2008
Reply: Tom!!!! What are you doing in Rochester? / 09 Sep 2008
Reply: Re: Tom!!!! What are you doing in Rochester? / 09 Sep 2008
Reply: Re: Re: the territories aren't israel. And they don't want to be / 08 Sep 2008
Reply: another Zionist lie / 09 Sep 2008
Reply: Re: another Zionist lie / 09 Sep 2008
Reply: Not accurate Nessie / 09 Sep 2008
Reply: another logical fallacy / 10 Sep 2008
Reply: Meet and greet Nessie Day / 10 Sep 2008
Reply: These are the Zionists' role models!?! / 10 Sep 2008
Reply: White people out of North America / 09 Sep 2008
Reply: Re: White people out of North America / 10 Sep 2008
Reply: another straw man / 10 Sep 2008
Reply: Re: "stealing the land, oppressing the natives and killing all who resist" / 11 Sep 2008
Reply: "No one wants to read fundementalist religious crap on the IMC." / 11 Sep 2008
Reply: "stealing the land, oppressing the natives and killing all who resist" / 12 Sep 2008
Reply: Re: Re: White people out of North America / 10 Sep 2008
Reply: I've practiced international law for 14 years. / 08 Sep 2008
Reply: "this person's argument is" / 09 Sep 2008
Reply: "the territories aren't israel." / 05 Sep 2008
Reply: "the territories" / 05 Sep 2008
Reply: Re: Why do peopel wnat to replace Israel with an Islamic republic? / 04 Sep 2008
Reply: "one thing ALL palestinian want" / 05 Sep 2008

Re: Technological innovation is just one reason to be proud of Israel

Here is where this screed started.

It is that the Zionists have a birthright of murderous theft of palestinian lands because Zionist are such better people CRAP.

And you thought that the ubbermensch / supierior beings rant went out of style in the 1940s? Hardly.

yet another (ANOTHER!!!!) way that Zionists have made themselves comparable to NAZIs.
 

"Palestinians" assert a claim of Muslim Supremacy


Since its been clearly established that the self-identified "Palestinians" are the descendants of economic migrants from surrounding Arab countries during recent historic times, their claim isn't based on any ancestral claim but rather on the basis of Moslem Supremacy. By Moslem law, any land ever owned, or occupied by a Moslem becomes part of the Moslem Wakf forever, and if lost, must be re-taken by Moslems. Thus the "Palestinians' actual claim to Israel is that they happen to be of the same religion as the Arab Armies that once conquered Israel.
 

Zionists assert claim of Jewish supremacy

The only just solution is a single, secular, egalitarian society in which it doesn't matter who your mother was or what name, if any, you use for deity.

Zionists will *never* agree to this for as long as the rest of the world allows them to keep on living, because equality is anathema to Zionists. It is the precise opposite of everything Zionism stands for.
 

Yo, Einstein

>their claim isn't based on any ancestral claim but rather on the basis of Moslem Supremacy

Not all Palestinians are Moslem. The Christian Palestinians want the Zionist foot off their neck every bit as badly as do the Moslems.
 
Reply: less than 2% of "Palestinians" are Christian / 11 Sep 2008
Reply: less than 2% of "Palestinians" are Christian / 11 Sep 2008
Reply: don't believe everytthing the "Palestinian" media putsout / 12 Sep 2008
Reply: "don't believe everytthing the 'Palestinian' media putsout" / 12 Sep 2008
Reply: "If you hear hoof beats..." / 12 Sep 2008
Reply: Re: "If you hear hoof beats..." / 12 Sep 2008
Reply: name three / 12 Sep 2008
Reply: heres some examples / 12 Sep 2008
Reply: "Gilad Shalit, the only Jew in Gaza" / 13 Sep 2008
Reply: Anybody who thinks the Mossad is not doing its job / 13 Sep 2008
Reply: "by Hamas" / 12 Sep 2008
Reply: Hamas, Son of Israel / 12 Sep 2008
Reply: Re: "being driven outby the Moslems." / 12 Sep 2008
Reply: Re: "being driven outby the Moslems." / 12 Sep 2008
Reply: "'the' Moslems." / 12 Sep 2008
Reply: "being driven outby the Moslems." / 12 Sep 2008
Reply: Re: "Let's hear from a Christian Palestinian" / 17 Sep 2008
Reply: "Let's hear from a Christian Palestinian" / 19 Sep 2008
Reply: Christioans driven out by the Moslems in Gaza / 19 Sep 2008
Reply: Yo, Mr. Flintsone / 11 Sep 2008

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